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Offline vaughtcity

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All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« on: Thursday, January 27, 2011. 05:00:31 PM. »
My trans went out last year so I had the Mechanic install the all balls inner primary bearing. Is it supposed to stick into the primary? This is on a 03 Softail




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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #1 on: Thursday, January 27, 2011. 11:06:13 PM. »
Can't read the lettering on the bearing but if it's a 5205 (not 6205) then it will sit out some.. 6205 is the baker bearing..

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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #2 on: Friday, January 28, 2011. 04:30:35 AM. »
Thanks Max I will check it

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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #3 on: Friday, January 28, 2011. 06:52:16 AM. »
Google up "bearing 5205" and "bearing 6205" and you'll see the difference in dimenstions. One thing to note is that both bearings used here have a slightly oversized inner race (coupla tenths) compared to the stock bearing dimensions to allow for a slip fit. Max
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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #4 on: Friday, January 28, 2011. 07:12:23 PM. »
How's that 5205 installed?

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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #5 on: Friday, January 28, 2011. 07:30:15 PM. »
Looks like 5205 on the bearing.
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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #6 on: Friday, January 28, 2011. 09:52:17 PM. »

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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #7 on: Sunday, January 30, 2011. 09:11:26 AM. »
Is it wise to buy the replacement bearings from a place like this to save money?http://www.thebigbearingstore.com/servlet/the-567/5205-dsh-2RS-5205-dsh-ZZ-Radial-Ball/Detail

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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #8 on: Sunday, January 30, 2011. 09:17:19 AM. »
I you have a means of honing out the inner bearing race then yes,, I'd give it a shot.. Max
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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #9 on: Sunday, January 30, 2011. 01:25:41 PM. »
 Check to see that the snap ring is installed between the inner primary seal and that the bearing is seated against it. That is a good bearing,I use them in performance builds. That thinner baker bearing wont last stay away from that one.
 Also check the parts book to see that the bearing fits your year bike. Harley has changed the od on the transmission input shaft on later years.

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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #10 on: Sunday, January 30, 2011. 06:55:08 PM. »
Google up "bearing 5205" and "bearing 6205" and you'll see the difference in dimenstions. One thing to note is that both bearings used here have a slightly oversized inner race (coupla tenths) compared to the stock bearing dimensions to allow for a slip fit. Max

Couple "tenths" as in .1   Thats a big slip fit!
Or a couple ten thousandths like .0001

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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #11 on: Sunday, January 30, 2011. 07:05:06 PM. »
Which do you think?

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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, August 16, 2011. 09:14:31 AM. »
Just an update this bearing was not pressed in all the way once I got it pressed in all the way it was actually counter sunk a little. I had to take the primary off to put a new dd5 baker in trany went out again

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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, August 16, 2011. 02:27:52 PM. »
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Couple "tenths" as in .1   Thats a big slip fit!
Or a couple ten thousandths like .0001   

When working with small dimensions, in many industries (including aerospace R&D where I work), the term "tenths" is spoken as to mean ten thousandths. In aerospace, fractional dimensions do not exist, so there is no mistaking it for a tenth of an inch. Your example of .1 would not be called one tenth, it would be called 100 thousanths.
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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday, August 17, 2011. 02:28:24 PM. »
 Be careful with that bearing. I put 1 in with a Bandit clutch and it pulled my main shaft  out of my trap door. I now have a double row Timken which is about twice the money . But a much better bearirg. I had to hone it with a brake hone. This time I left both clip and put a lot of 644 bearing retainer on it . Hope it stays?

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Re: All Balls Inner Primary Bearing
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, August 17, 2011. 05:54:54 PM. »
Be careful with that bearing. I put 1 in with a Bandit clutch and it pulled my main shaft  out of my trap door. I now have a double row Timken which is about twice the money . But a much better bearirg. I had to hone it with a brake hone. This time I left both clip and put a lot of 644 bearing retainer on it . Hope it stays?
Help me with the connection here. The stock ip bearing has no shaft retention either so why would this one contribute to the trap end of the shaft letting go. I'm thinking you just got unlucky with the timing of the event. The trap door and bearings are total crap to start with. I'm surprised more problems don't show up with this area failing.
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