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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #50 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 04:05:08 PM. »
who you talking to Jim with a 103"er with 11.3:1, or did you mean happyman's 107"er?

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #51 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 04:10:53 PM. »
who you talking to Jim with a 103"er with 11.3:1, or did you mean happyman's 107"er?

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will theis 594 work or not in a 107. by work i mean work very well of half assed??  using at leat a 1.90 intake perhaps a 2.0  and larger ex. valve with 11.3 on the  107 i have to think that motor would rip..    even in a  stret glide if it pulls as good as  your sayin it does and i tend to think from what you say it prolly would be a good choice  but then the 574 may work out better for most .maybe
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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #52 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 04:38:32 PM. »
 A little update on the 594's. I went on a little putt today with two of my friends on about a hundred mile jont. The bike performed flawlessly on the ride. It pulled hard from the bottom and smoothly accelerated up thru all the gears. We cruised on back roads 45-50 mph in 6th gear, and I had no lugging even going this slow in sixth. If you rolled on the throttle in 6th from 45 mph it seems to have an endless pull.
 The bike started up easy each time after a few pit stops for a cold :beer:...1st touch of the starter button and it was gone, it seemed like it didn't even turn over a whole revolution before starting. 
 I did roll out easy in first gear a couple of times and pulled the clutch in and dumped it at around 3500 rpm...it just melts the tire.   :up:
My friend that I was riding with has a 120R in a 2011 Road Glide...he made the comment he couldn't believe how quiet the valvetrain is now, vs the noise it had with the 662-2's. Don't get me wrong...the 662's were not that noisy...but these 594's have made this valvetrain quiet as stock...with .060 less lift.
I'm very impressed with everything about this cam in the old 117"er. I found a keeper !
 Now I have to get it to Strokerjlk so he can work his magic...then I'll have the numbers to post that you guys have been wanting to see out of the lil 117"er...lol.

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #53 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 04:39:16 PM. »
I think they would work great...but I would call Luke @ Fueling and give him your set up. He will steer you in the right way. He is a very smart guy and will talk to you and he will give his advice if you ask for it.
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At 11.3 you better have a good tuner, with the 574.
11:0 with the 630 advanced 4 deg it made 115/115 ish in a 103

i think 10.6 would be ok with the 574?? that would be what i would shoot for and should tune fine.

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #54 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 04:52:17 PM. »
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What's that sound like??  :wink:

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #55 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 04:52:47 PM. »
I think they would work great...but I would call Luke @ Fueling and give him your set up. He will steer you in the right way. He is a very smart guy and will talk to you and he will give his advice if you ask for it.
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At 11.3 you better have a good tuner, with the 574.
11:0 with the 630 advanced 4 deg it made 115/115 ish in a 103

i think 10.6 would be ok with the 574?? that would be what i would shoot for and should tune fine.
yeah thats more like it :up:
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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #56 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 04:57:02 PM. »
I think they would work great...but I would call Luke @ Fueling and give him your set up. He will steer you in the right way. He is a very smart guy and will talk to you and he will give his advice if you ask for it.
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At 11.3 you better have a good tuner, with the 574.
11:0 with the 630 advanced 4 deg it made 115/115 ish in a 103

i think 10.6 would be ok with the 574?? that would be what i would shoot for and should tune fine.
yeah thats more like it :up:

actually think  coiuld go 10.8.1 but pretty close to the edge perhapson the fuel available   91 stuff

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #57 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 05:05:43 PM. »
I think they would work great...but I would call Luke @ Fueling and give him your set up. He will steer you in the right way. He is a very smart guy and will talk to you and he will give his advice if you ask for it.
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At 11.3 you better have a good tuner, with the 574.
11:0 with the 630 advanced 4 deg it made 115/115 ish in a 103

i think 10.6 would be ok with the 574?? that would be what i would shoot for and should tune fine.
yeah thats more like it :up:

actually think  coiuld go 10.8.1 but pretty close to the edge perhapson the fuel available   91 stuff

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #58 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 05:09:24 PM. »
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What engine temps are you seeing with your comp.

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #59 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 05:14:10 PM. »
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sounds like a vespa Bruce

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #60 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 05:22:59 PM. »
Reaper 630 cam =S&S 625, about the same cam!!!!! Nothing new here just like the T-man 662-2=Woods 9F!! :potstir:

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #61 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 05:37:40 PM. »
Reaper 630 cam =S&S 625, about the same cam!!!!! Nothing new here just like the T-man 662-2=Woods 9F!! :potstir:

The reaper 594 is closer..

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #62 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 05:41:58 PM. »
Reaper 630 cam =S&S 625, about the same cam!!!!! Nothing new here just like the T-man 662-2=Woods 9F!! :potstir:
Bulldog...I disagree. If you look at the timing events with the wider LSA's on the 594's...you will see it's actually a breed of it's own. The numbers are decieving on this cam. I see numbers close to this cam...but I can tell you it is a very strong performer.
HogBag...I have a digital dip stick...and the highest I seen today was 210* with 80* outside temp. I'm running dino oil for another 100 miles left on the break in of the new rings. Then I'll switch over to full synthetic Amsoil. It should run between 185-200* with the Amsoil...at least it did in the past. I did a little test earlier this year on engine temps...dino vs syn in my bike. The syn ran 25* cooler than dino.
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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #63 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 06:11:11 PM. »
45 mph roll on in 6th gear?Stock gearing or something different?

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #64 on: Sunday, September 30, 2012. 08:43:31 PM. »
Fueling Reaper 594 Cam Specs

Intake lift:   594"    op 19*   close 56*
Exhaust lift: 604"    op 64*   close 16*
Duration:      255/260
Lift @ TDC:  .190*/.167*
Lobe Centerline: .108.5*/.114*

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Shouldn't the 56* intake close make this more of a upper end cam?

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #65 on: Monday, October 01, 2012. 02:39:04 AM. »
I'm running a 30 tooth Andrews tranny gear and a 70 tooth rear pulley...I got rid of the cush drive.
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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #66 on: Monday, October 01, 2012. 06:09:02 AM. »
Fueling Reaper 594 Cam Specs

Intake lift:   594"    op 19*   close 56*
Exhaust lift: 604"    op 64*   close 16*
Duration:      255/260
Lift @ TDC:  .190*/.167*
Lobe Centerline: .108.5*/.114*

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Shouldn't the 56* intake close make this more of a upper end cam?

  The intake closing point on this cam might be a little deceiving in how it would perform because of the LSA but again without some compression this cam would be pretty soggy down bottom.

 On a larger 110-117 with 10.5 or so this thing should make some snot
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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #67 on: Monday, October 01, 2012. 07:19:37 AM. »
Fueling Reaper 594 Cam Specs

Intake lift:   594"    op 19*   close 56*
Exhaust lift: 604"    op 64*   close 16*
Duration:      255/260
Lift @ TDC:  .190*/.167*
Lobe Centerline: .108.5*/.114*

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Shouldn't the 56* intake close make this more of a upper end cam?

  The intake closing point on this cam might be a little deceiving in how it would perform because of the LSA but again without some compression this cam would be pretty soggy down bottom.

 On a larger 110-117 with 10.5 or so this thing should make some snot
Look at the intake opening also
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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #68 on: Monday, October 01, 2012. 07:30:05 AM. »
Look at the intake opening also

The intake opening (15) on the 574 is what provides the slow speed manors that along with the other cam timing events is what sets the 574 in a league of their own IMO
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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #69 on: Monday, October 01, 2012. 08:23:48 AM. »
Look at the intake opening also

The intake opening (15) on the 574 is what provides the slow speed manors that along with the other cam timing events is what sets the 574 in a league of their own IMO

thinking i may give that cam a shot myself.  your dyo sheet  looked good for all around riding on a Street Glide.. lots of other cams out there, but its a combination of things of this  574 that get my attention

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #70 on: Monday, October 01, 2012. 10:09:13 AM. »
Ok everyone is talking equal to or in excess of 103 ci.

What about a carbed 95, Very good heads ported ( larger valves etc) and matched intake, running a ,030 hg and ~ .032 quish, ~ 10.25 : 1 comp. CV 40 set up very well DTT ign. Currently running a S&S 570. ~ 98 hp 105 tq

Heads can take 600 lift no problems.

Have a CV 44 and a HRS 42 MIK on the shelf waiting if needed.

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #71 on: Monday, October 01, 2012. 10:29:23 AM. »
  For a carbed bike with 10.25 I see no reason not to give it a shot,it would make power well beyond the 570 and possibly enough more to warrant the change.
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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #72 on: Tuesday, October 09, 2012. 05:24:20 PM. »
Fueling Reaper 594 Cam Specs

Intake lift:   594"    op 19*   close 56*
Exhaust lift: 604"    op 64*   close 16*
Duration:      255/260
Lift @ TDC:  .190*/.167*
Lobe Centerline: .108.5*/.114*

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Shouldn't the 56* intake close make this more of a upper end cam?

  The intake closing point on this cam might be a little deceiving in how it would perform because of the LSA but again without some compression this cam would be pretty soggy down bottom.

 On a larger 110-117 with 10.5 or so this thing should make some snot
Well guys...I'll give a little further update on the Reaper 594's in my 117"er. The bike has been performing flawlessly. It seems like the more miles I put on it with these cams the happier the bike is...and so am I.  I do not miss the 662-2 cams at all. The cam spec's on these 594's are very decieving. Looking at the spec's I thought it would be a more mid range to top end cam like the 662's are. But this thing pulls like a freight train from idle and continues to pull in any gear, at any rpm, to the redline without a hiccup. The 594's have made the valvetrain quiet as stock again and the power is everywhere in the whole rpm range...available at will with the twist of the wick. Fueling has a very nice product out here with these new 594's...I couldn't be happier.

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #73 on: Tuesday, October 09, 2012. 05:35:43 PM. »
HogBag...I'm running 11.29:1 static compression in my 117"er. My head porter (wfolarry) turned me on to these new Reaper 594 cams a few weeks ago...at that time they had not been released to the market. He said that they would really respond excellent to the work he did to the big valve 110" heads I'm running. Larry wouldn't have told me that if it wasn't true...so I had to try them and found out for myself. I'm damn glad I did.
 I can not get over that these cams perform as well as they do with .060 less lift than the Tman 662-2's I was running. I did two TTS Vtunes on it today after I got home from work. The second tune was completely white in all the cells...actually none were even light pink. This is the first time I have ever seen that with a TTS tune. This thing pulls so hard at 2200 rpm that you better have a tight grip on the bars if your twisting the wick. This thing is wickedly evil now...me likey a lot.

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is this  594 a quite cam  easy on vlave train?

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Re: Fueling Reaper 594 cams in the 117"er
« Reply #74 on: Tuesday, October 09, 2012. 05:39:02 PM. »
Yes...I was typing when you posted your question. I think I answered what your asking in the previous post I made.
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