TTs or SeProSuperTuner

[DirtNap]

I have some pretty good experience with tts on a twin cam,but i just sold the twin and decided to play around with a vrod .Now im trying to decided on a tuner for my next adventure .I pounding in as much knowledge as possible to come up with an answer,but i cant seem to find a good resource.I just keep reading ...get it dynoed  .I do agree with that ,for a sure win over self tuning ,but i want to tune it myself until i can get some cams installed.Does any one have any advice ,pro and cons ?     

[hrdtail78]

TTS gives you a histogram that allows you to see what data you have collected for 4 or so years now. The newest SESPT does something like this.  I have not played with the new stuff yet.  In my professional opinion.  Go with TTS.

[strokerjlk]

I have some pretty good experience with tts on a twin cam,but i just sold the twin and decided to play around with a vrod .Now im trying to decided on a tuner for my next adventure .I pounding in as much knowledge as possible to come up with an answer,but i cant seem to find a good resource.I just keep reading ...get it dynoed  .I do agree with that ,for a sure win over self tuning ,but i want to tune it myself until i can get some cams installed.Does any one have any advice ,pro and cons ?   

whatever tuner you decide on
find someone that will tune it without the DIY software.
there are a lot of cells to hit ,and neither device will come close to collecting data in all these areas. take a look at the the break points and you will see what I am talking about.

[DirtNap]

I did notice that tts and im not sure about SEPST doest record over 6500 rpm and i need to see up to 9500 .I only reason im considering a SEPST is that no tuner i talked to, tunes with the TTS on my end .They all tune with SEPST.Im sure if they looked into it ,it wouldnt be a problem ,but im no dyno tuner .Also it seems to me from what i read on the internet  SEPST wont tune as well as a tts .I just looking for a professional view.

[strokerjlk]

I did notice that tts and im not sure about SEPST doest record over 6500 rpm and i need to see up to 9500 .I only reason im considering a SEPST is that no tuner i talked to, tunes with the TTS on my end .They all tune with SEPST.Im sure if they looked into it ,it wouldnt be a problem ,but im no dyno tuner .Also it seems to me from what i read on the internet  SEPST wont tune as well as a tts .I just looking for a professional view.

SEPST works fine on a v rod .  If that is what your tuner wants to use, then go with it.
If each tuner wash used correct ... You couldn't tell the diff between the two

[wurk_truk]

Go with what the best of the dyno guys around you recommend.  If you were going to try a DIY tune on that VRod , I would say give TTS a try, but since you are going with a dyno shop?  BOTH tuners would do equally as well.  SEPST won't tune as well as TTS, on a DIY level, but surely will in the hands of a competent tuner.

[rbabos]

Personally had I gone to v rod PV would have been my tuner, even though I have TTS. Tmax is a definate no no on these bikes.
Ron

[HV]

The SESPT tunes fine on the V Rod... Smart tune is another issue ... but check with the Guy that's going to Use it... having a Dyno guy learn a TTS that's never done one would be very expensive Id think ...

[DirtNap]

Thanks for the replies and thats very good point hv .I read  that the dantona twin tech can collect data in the upper rpm ranges , but never heard of any bragging about it . I guess the best thing to do is just Pay a tuner and hope he gets it right or buy a tts tuner and find someone that can tune with TTS even if it's a rode trip .I am very comfordable using TTS , but a little worried about the base map areas I can't record .Thing is a have a TTS I can get programmed for duel bikes for $200 or buy a new sepst for $545.00.

[Steve Cole]

The TTS records ALL areas of operation and if your bike has O2 sensors it will record those at all areas of operation as well.

[DirtNap]

Ok , thanks .
I been getting my info in the wrong place .And after all of this fuss. I was out cleaning my bike and guess what ,no o2 sensor's. I just assumed in a 2007 night rod had them. .Looks like SEPST it is then, or a power commander

[Steve Cole]

The TTS will still work for the bike with no O2's just have to tune it the old fashion way, educated guessing from the exhaust sensors from the dyno, same as any of the rest of the products on the market.

[DirtNap]

Yeah I know , but no one in my area tunes with TTS .I did and o2 upgrade to my 2004 fxsti , I'm guessing the same applies to the vrod ?

[Dennis The Menace]

Dirtnap, keep in mind the TTS was the SE Race Tuner before MoCo went with a different company.  So, if the local HD shop knows how to tune with a SERT, they should be okay with a TTS.

Not picking one device over another, just pointing out that the TTS was the old SERT, and if the tuners knew how to properly tune a SERT they should be okay on TTS, tho there have been some changes.

Personally, I use a SEPST with SmartTune, since its way easier to tote the VCI on my bike over a laptop.  Perfect tune?  Nope.  But its pretty good, or at least good enough for me.  And, my opinion is the only one that counts when it comes to my bike.