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SE compensator -verses- 2010 stock compensater
FLTR2008TRIKE:
--- Quote from: Richard K on Friday, July 13, 2012. 08:06:42 AM. --- :chop:
Have a look and read completely the threads I started back in December of 2011
"SE Compensator by Richard K"
There is a ton of good and solid information on this issue complied from input from many, many folks and lots of experience. The SE Comp is the best way to go and there is no doubt on that. The SE Comp was rushed to production due to the mass failures of the stock comp so it has issues. The SE failures are a direct result of NO OIL getting to the Comp. We have solved that issue and are moving to see it in production and available to who is interested. That will take some time however.
Read all you can on the subject and just be prepared to replace the comp every 5 to 25K miles depending on the model, riding habits and lubrications used.
I have found that keeping the shinny side up works the best!!!!!!
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Any idea when you will be ready to get more out? I ride a trike as well and would like to get your modifications done to my SE Comp and install your oil feed tray.
Tom
Max Headflow:
--- Quote ---That's a mistake because the springs in the compensator will start absorbing that torque and the bolt ends up not getting torqued properly and works out.
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Give me a break.. :hyst: Torque is the same.. BTW you can go to 165 if you want..
--- Quote --- Another area of concern for me was the starter clutch. I read about several instances related to failed starter clutches due to the lack of spring action in the stock compensator in combination with the higher compression 103" engine.
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Low battery and 103 with 255 killed my riding buddies starter clutch. He needs a comp.. but he'll run it til it breaks before fixing it..
I just replaced mine with a low mileage stock take off (thanks Gary).. 31K on the original and it was knocking a bit.. Crank splines still straight tho.. Take off is much quieter.. Also changing the cam to one that don't hit so hard down low probably helped..
I suspect that those that fall into the gotta have low end torque on a bagger are shooting themselves in the foot..
Max
wurk_truk:
--- Quote from: Max Headflow on Friday, July 13, 2012. 09:39:38 AM. ---
--- Quote ---That's a mistake because the springs in the compensator will start absorbing that torque and the bolt ends up not getting torqued properly and works out.
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Give me a break.. :hyst: Torque is the same.. BTW you can go to 165 if you want..
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Max, that just proves you have never even seen a SE comp, nor worked with one. The comp WILL start to 'compensate' unless you hold the big nut on the end to keep the comp in place. After about 110-120 ft lbs, if using a locking bar, you start reading the spring pack pressure instead of torque on the bolt because the cam plate starts to twist.
Nobody should ever use a locking bar to torque down an SE comp. So says I, AND... the directions from MOCO.
VDeuce:
--- Quote from: wurk_truk on Friday, July 13, 2012. 09:51:31 AM. ---
--- Quote from: Max Headflow on Friday, July 13, 2012. 09:39:38 AM. ---
--- Quote ---That's a mistake because the springs in the compensator will start absorbing that torque and the bolt ends up not getting torqued properly and works out.
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Give me a break.. :hyst: Torque is the same.. BTW you can go to 165 if you want..
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Max, that just proves you have never even seen a SE comp, nor worked with one. The comp WILL start to 'compensate' unless you hold the big nut on the end to keep the comp in place. After about 110-120 ft lbs, if using a locking bar, you start reading the spring pack pressure instead of torque on the bolt because the cam plate starts to twist.
Nobody should ever use a locking bar to torque down an SE comp. So says I, AND... the directions from MOCO.
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I just installed one last night and used a big-ass adjustable wrench, 18" long with the end sitting on the floor and made for an easy torque to 140. Yep, not supposed to use the locking bar approach.
Max Headflow:
So you guys are saying that the SE comp can't handle 140 fp tq? Does the sprocket bend? I guess we know what it's limitations are.. :scratch:
Max
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