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SE compensator -verses- 2010 stock compensater
Max Headflow:
--- Quote from: wurk_truk on Friday, July 13, 2012. 09:51:31 AM. ---
Max, that just proves you have never even seen a SE comp, nor worked with one. The comp WILL start to 'compensate' unless you hold the big nut on the end to keep the comp in place. After about 110-120 ft lbs, if using a locking bar, you start reading the spring pack pressure instead of torque on the bolt because the cam plate starts to twist.
Nobody should ever use a locking bar to torque down an SE comp. So says I, AND... the directions from MOCO.
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It obvious that I don't know jack about SE comps.. So educate me.. The latest instructions in the section here say to use a locking bar..
J05457 -> 94102-09
http://www.latus-harley-davidson.com/Screamin-Eagle-Primary-Drive-Locking-Tool.htm
Always willing to learn.. (the right stuff. not the old wive's tail stuff :wink:)
Max
1FSTRK:
--- Quote from: Max Headflow on Friday, July 13, 2012. 10:48:34 AM. ---
--- Quote from: wurk_truk on Friday, July 13, 2012. 09:51:31 AM. ---
Max, that just proves you have never even seen a SE comp, nor worked with one. The comp WILL start to 'compensate' unless you hold the big nut on the end to keep the comp in place. After about 110-120 ft lbs, if using a locking bar, you start reading the spring pack pressure instead of torque on the bolt because the cam plate starts to twist.
Nobody should ever use a locking bar to torque down an SE comp. So says I, AND... the directions from MOCO.
--- End quote ---
It obvious that I don't know jack about SE comps.. So educate me.. The latest instructions in the section here say to use a locking bar..
J05457 -> 94102-09
http://www.latus-harley-davidson.com/Screamin-Eagle-Primary-Drive-Locking-Tool.htm
Always willing to learn.. (the right stuff. not the old wive's tail stuff :wink:)
Max
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Max you may want to read the sheet you referred to. The locking bar is used to remove the stock comp. A 1 3/4 box wrench is used to install the SE comp.
Barrett:
--- Quote from: 1FSTRK on Friday, July 13, 2012. 11:27:40 AM. ---
--- Quote from: Max Headflow on Friday, July 13, 2012. 10:48:34 AM. ---
--- Quote from: wurk_truk on Friday, July 13, 2012. 09:51:31 AM. ---
Max, that just proves you have never even seen a SE comp, nor worked with one. The comp WILL start to 'compensate' unless you hold the big nut on the end to keep the comp in place. After about 110-120 ft lbs, if using a locking bar, you start reading the spring pack pressure instead of torque on the bolt because the cam plate starts to twist.
Nobody should ever use a locking bar to torque down an SE comp. So says I, AND... the directions from MOCO.
--- End quote ---
It obvious that I don't know jack about SE comps.. So educate me.. The latest instructions in the section here say to use a locking bar..
J05457 -> 94102-09
http://www.latus-harley-davidson.com/Screamin-Eagle-Primary-Drive-Locking-Tool.htm
Always willing to learn.. (the right stuff. not the old wive's tail stuff :wink:)
Max
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Max you may want to read the sheet you referred to. The locking bar is used to remove the stock comp. A 1 3/4 box wrench is used to install the SE comp.
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Description:
This tool is designed to keep the primary drive system from rotating during the installation and removal of the compensator sprocket nut or the clutch hub nut. The tool is easily inserted into the primary drive system and wedges in place to restrict movement without damaging the sprocket teeth.
For use on '07-later Touring models.
Templar2:
I read it and I will post this:
This tool is designed to keep the primary drive system from rotating during the installation and removal of the compensator sprocket nut or the clutch hub nut. The tool is easily inserted into the primary drive system and wedges in place to restrict movement without damaging the sprocket teeth.
It clearly says during "installation and removal". I would take that to mean it can used for both.
Max Headflow:
Well learning to read would help. :embarrassed:. Anyway my point is that it don't make any difference in the torque.. Or maybe it does? Not from the point of view that the comp is messing with the TQ but from the point that the torquing the comp with a jam bar puts additional tension on the bolt which may change the final tq value.. Still the stock comps up until the 08 SE still use a jam bar.. What 1963 up?
Max
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