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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 03:24:08 PM. »
just remember GMR-PERFORMANCE (Steve) Didn't start this thread and Andrews was the one
talking about it, at the show. He just added a little more info to it . So you would know
how far along they were in the process of testing/marketing the cams. 
And you guys  beat him up for that ?
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 03:40:16 PM. »
Yeh, tough crowd
Just because its said don't make it so

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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 03:53:35 PM. »
I, for one, appreciate knowing there may be a new little goody in the works...Thanks!
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 04:03:50 PM. »
LIke a bunch of skirts
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 04:23:49 PM. »
It's just a cam for cripes sake
One of a sea of them in the same class all trying to jockey for leader of the pack when they are all so similar.
Many will all work well if the rest of the parts cooperate and as the overlap and TDC lifts rises those factors become more critical.

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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 04:35:35 PM. »
Oh come on guys 5 more weeks...come on spring mercy!    :scoot:

Besides why anyone continues to develop cams out here with the work all fit all compression all woods6 available out there that works in everything any size motor at any CR is just crazy anyhow LOL  :bike:   Sorry couldn't help myself  :wink:

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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 04:59:54 PM. »
I know you are saying this tongue and cheek but really the same could be said for the TW37. Put a TW37 up to a 54 and tell me the impression you get. With the naked eye you can see the 37 has a much more aggressive lobe shape.  The ol 37 (as is the EV27 in EVO land) is still a contender despite the cam flavor of the month and the oneupmanship with the manufacturer / vendor wars.

I just assume skip it. Want a torque cam, a few of the many that will work well, CR575,Woods 5, TW37, 204, TW48, S&S 551 (no preference order) for most OEM head builds, want a hot rod move up and skip the 40+or- close cams and step up and let the motor breathe with the heads that you just spent good money for. 110 is a new sheet of music.

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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 05:09:53 PM. »
Yup same thing we discussed back when some here were justifying the additional cost of a specific cam due to the name.

Like I said then, one ingredient does not make a cake. 

Most cams with the duration numbers, lobe separation, lift & closing numbers will generate the results desired when all the build details are correctly setup.

There is no magic bullet sorry!  :idea:   
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 07:29:50 PM. »
This is amazing stuff. Here Andrews goes through all the trouble of designing a cam, having shops test it, waiting for feedback so they can put the finishing touches on it before they release it & it's all for nothing. They could have saved themselves the time & trouble by just posting here like I did & the internet experts would have set them straight. Don't waste your time! Are you crazy? We got enough cams already. You think it's better than the ones you have out now? C'mon. Who you kidding. We know better.
I'm calling them tomorrow to set them straight. I'll tell them to check here first before they have any more silly ideas.
When I run cams on my test stand to compare them & get ACTUAL DATA I forget sometimes that there are guys that don't have to do that. I hope someday I'll be that smart. Maybe then I'll be able to post something on the internet that actually meant something. Untill then I'll keep chugging along hoping for the best.

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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 07:37:10 PM. »
 :up: Well put.

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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #60 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 07:44:43 PM. »
I know you are saying this tongue and cheek but really the same could be said for the TW37. Put a TW37 up to a 54 and tell me the impression you get. With the naked eye you can see the 37 has a much more aggressive lobe shape.  The ol 37 (as is the EV27 in EVO land) is still a contender despite the cam flavor of the month and the oneupmanship with the manufacturer / vendor wars.

I am so glad to live in the northland. I only need 6 cam grinds to make the season changing one set per month.
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 07:48:20 PM. »
Long winter, cabin fever settin in.

By the way what oil are you using in your test mule?


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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 07:51:05 PM. »
I know you are saying this tongue and cheek but really the same could be said for the TW37. Put a TW37 up to a 54 and tell me the impression you get. With the naked eye you can see the 37 has a much more aggressive lobe shape.  The ol 37 (as is the EV27 in EVO land) is still a contender despite the cam flavor of the month and the oneupmanship with the manufacturer / vendor wars.

I am so glad to live in the northland. I only need 6 cam grinds to make the season changing one set per month.
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That's funny cause when I heard about the new cam I had you in mind for testing it, lol Was going to try to talk you into boring some 4.060 cylinders out to  4.125 while you are at it.
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 08:47:08 PM. »
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I'll tell them to check here first before they have any more silly ideas.


Damned Straight!..

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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 08:57:04 PM. »
That's right check here first!
If this is a tool to leverage more power out of these street builds I am all ears.
We will see after it hits the streets and is tested by many in many types of builds.

Bob
I did hear of a guy that did bore the 4.06 cylinders to 4.125, 8" rods, custom CP pistons, and some pretty healthy heads. The 117" made 162hp with Woods cams. I don't know all the details but he did win a dyno shootout at Sturgis and rode it both ways from Calif.

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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 09:12:39 PM. »
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I did hear of a guy that did bore the 4.06 cylinders to 4.125, 8" rods, custom CP pistons, and some pretty healthy heads.

And it had a piston CH of about 0.73..  :dgust:  Max
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday, February 08, 2012. 09:15:49 PM. »
It would appear that way wouldn't it? Right up there in the ring pack.
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #67 on: Saturday, February 11, 2012. 09:11:15 AM. »
I'm hoping the 57H is a bolt-in for the 103 producing over 100TQ by 2200rpm. I am wanting a high lift/short duration cam and I would just as soon save a hundred bucks or so by getting an Andrews. T-Man's and Woods are well over $350 compared to $250 for the Andrews and Andrews grinds 'em all.
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #68 on: Saturday, June 02, 2012. 04:44:12 AM. »
Have a set on order from Herko and put them in ASAP- looks like a good choice for stage 1 103 bagger-

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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #69 on: Saturday, June 02, 2012. 05:09:29 AM. »
I got a set in a 103 done and tuned with a FM 2-1-2 head pipe and bassani slip ons. It went 96hp/112tq. I will get the sheet on here today. I have been trying but it's been busy. From the looks of the curve I am thinking exhaust choice will be critical to bring torque in that early. 100ft/lbs by 2200 is Andrews 48 territory and as a bolt in without compression/headwork you are going to give up some horsepower up top to get it. Once the cam is in play though the exhaust becomes the wild card. Cams that run out quick (48, 255) will carry out further with a good pipe while still striking hard at the bottom but will still not produce the top end power of a 57.
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #70 on: Saturday, June 02, 2012. 05:56:51 AM. »
an inquiry to andrews this week about the best low end cam for the 103"


Larry,
 
Our new 57H cam is the low-end power choice for the new 103" engines. Attached is a catalog page with specs.
 
Thank you,

216357 57H 18/38 100 236 270 .560 .184 Stock New in 2012: Bolt-in, broad tip cams: 96, 103 Limited
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6/14 106 240 274 .560 .153 and CVO 110 engines. Max torque: 2200 - 5600 RPM.

 
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Mount Prospect, IL 60056
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #71 on: Monday, June 04, 2012. 03:36:20 PM. »
I got a set in a 103 done and tuned with a FM 2-1-2 head pipe and bassani slip ons. It went 96hp/112tq. I will get the sheet on here today. I have been trying but it's been busy. From the looks of the curve I am thinking exhaust choice will be critical to bring torque in that early. 100ft/lbs by 2200 is Andrews 48 territory and as a bolt in without compression/headwork you are going to give up some horsepower up top to get it. Once the cam is in play though the exhaust becomes the wild card. Cams that run out quick (48, 255) will carry out further with a good pipe while still striking hard at the bottom but will still not produce the top end power of a 57.

your killing me I need to see the chart LOL.

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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #72 on: Monday, June 04, 2012. 03:58:36 PM. »
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #73 on: Thursday, June 07, 2012. 01:45:30 AM. »
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Re: Andrews 57H
« Reply #74 on: Friday, June 08, 2012. 05:47:59 PM. »
I got a set in a 103 done and tuned with a FM 2-1-2 head pipe and bassani slip ons. It went 96hp/112tq. I will get the sheet on here today. I have been trying but it's been busy. From the looks of the curve I am thinking exhaust choice will be critical to bring torque in that early. 100ft/lbs by 2200 is Andrews 48 territory and as a bolt in without compression/headwork you are going to give up some horsepower up top to get it. Once the cam is in play though the exhaust becomes the wild card. Cams that run out quick (48, 255) will carry out further with a good pipe while still striking hard at the bottom but will still not produce the top end power of a 57.
Still waiting on that dyno sheet. Very Interested.  :pop:
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