Ultima 127 Mods.

[Mr. Torque]

Has anyone played with the Ultima 127 engines? They claim 140HP and 145 ft. lbs. are these true or fictitious numbers?.I've read that with a little head work and a cam change they have actually made better than 150 HP. How likely is that? How dependable are these engines?   

[Reddog74usa]

You need to talk to John Sachs. He runs one of those and can get you where you want to be with that Ultima 127. 1st class guy and no B.S.

[1997bagger]

I will second Reddogs recomendation of telling John Sachs of your needs with the Ultima, Jireh is discounting the 140 on ebay but get a couple rear tires throwed in.

[Mr. Torque]

Thanks, How do I get a hold of John Sachs?

[HILLSIDECYCLE]

John is in Fla.
BTW, we've seen almost 150 ft/lbs in the 120"s with a Wood 9B, S&S g/Thunderjet/Rhineharts.
Chris, I think I've got John's number on file.
Scott

[speed limit]

Mine has been a work in progress, I had a set of S.T.D. stage 4  oval port heads made for it set up @ 10.5  with S&S oval port manifold 48 mikuni with race back, wood 9f cam. superzilla pipe. makes 150 ft. lbs and 139 h.p.  going to bump up compression to 11.1 and go with a S&S 640 cam.

[1997bagger]

SACHS RACE BIKES
1601 N.W. 99 AVENUE
PLANTATION FL 33322
954-473-2980
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[jsachs1]

Has anyone played with the Ultima 127 engines? They claim 140HP and 145 ft. lbs. are these true or fictitious numbers?.I've read that with a little head work and a cam change they have actually made better than 150 HP. How likely is that? How dependable are these engines?   

Out of the box,a 127 Ultima is in the 120 - low 130 range.You can make real good power,150,and the same in torque.It'll take more than a LITTLE head work.
IMO,they're a good "hot rod" motor.Naturally as the power goes up,so does the pms factor. 
John

[Mr. Torque]

Thanks to all. John your opinion on the S&S 640 with the Ultima 1.73 rockers over the Ultima 127 cam. Bump compression to 10.8 ?

[jsachs1]

I like the Ultima cam.I make good power with it,and NO excessive valve guide wear to boot.
Very close to an S&S 640,with 1.62 rockers
John

[partycrasher]

Are the ultima motors limited to evo style??

[Reddog74usa]

No, They also make a 96 inch Shovelhead

[prodrag1320]

we`ve done alot of the 127`s,mostly out of the box.ive done some headwork & other mods on mine(got 142 rwhp),but i know johns got 150+ out of them